[OT] SharePoint vs Wiki

[Peter Vertes]

*Hello List,*

This is a kinda off topic question but it is development related. I'm
looking to put together an information "information repository" for one of
my dev teams. I'm thinking about it being a wiki type thing. Different
people can update the different items inside this said repository that the
rest of the group can view without a fuss (meaning no additional software
installation required, viewing via a browser would be ideal). During one of
our meetings the idea of a SharePoint server came up but since I'm not all
that familiar with it I don't know if it would satisfy my requirements. I
did a little reading up on SharePoint and I think it might be an overkill
for our use. If someone is using something similar with their team are they
using SharePoint ? If not what kind of wiki engine would you recommend ?
I'm looking for something that is preferably ASP.NET. Thanks...

-Pete

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[Jason Finch]

[Pardee, Roy]

[Peter Vertes]

*Jason & Roy,*

Thanks for the recommendations; I will give them a try. So far I've
played with ScrewTurn around a little bit and it's very impressive. Thanks
again guys...

-Pete

On Dec 4, 2007 11:26 AM, Pardee, Roy <***@ghc.org> wrote:

> There's also Perspective, which is asp.net based:
>
> http://high-beyond.com
>
> I've had pretty decent experience w/that one.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM] On Behalf Of Jason Finch
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:25 PM
> To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> Subject: Re: [DOTNET-WEB] [OT] SharePoint vs Wiki
>
> Screwturn wiki is very easy to setup and runs on top of asp.net
> http://www.screwturn.eu
>
> I understand SharePoint (MOSS) has a wiki module, but SharePoint
> provides more than wiki, including search, document storage, versioning
> etc. If you are using Sharepoint remember there is Windows Sharepoint
> Services which is free, then there is MOSS (many more features thatn
> WSS) which costs money.
>
> Like you said, depending on your needs a content portal like SharePoint
> may be overkill for your requirements. We successfully use a wiki to
> maintain developer notes and linkages to our source control system so a
> wiki suits our needs perfectly. I think we had screwturn up and running
> in about 5 minutes.
>
> Other options I can think of that I know are decent:
> * Trac (Python/LAMP)
> * FlexWiki (ASP.NET)
> * DekiWiki (Mono/PHP)
> * MediaWiki (LAMP)
>
> HTH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of building .NET applications targeted for the Web
> [mailto:DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM] On Behalf Of Peter Vertes
>
> This is a kinda off topic question but it is development related.
> I'm looking to put together an information "information repository" for
> one of my dev teams. I'm thinking about it being a wiki type thing.
> Different people can update the different items inside this said
> repository that the rest of the group can view without a fuss (meaning
> no additional software installation required, viewing via a browser
> would be ideal). During one of our meetings the idea of a SharePoint
> server came up but since I'm not all that familiar with it I don't know
> if it would satisfy my requirements. I did a little reading up on
> SharePoint and I think it might be an overkill for our use. If someone
> is using something similar with their team are they using SharePoint ?
> If not what kind of wiki engine would you recommend ?
> I'm looking for something that is preferably ASP.NET. Thanks...
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[Dean Cleaver]

I'm connecting to a web service using network credentials, but have a very strange error occurring. On my desktop and on the SQL Server machine, this program will connect correctly - but on the web server, it will fail with a 401 error. I've double checked and re checked everything, and all credentials are correct - but it still fails. Same exe file works fine from other machines - any ideas on what to look at?

Dino

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[Dean Cleaver]

The remote web service must be working, because I can connect fine from my desktop in design mode, but from the web server (our web server calling the remote web service - the web service is hosted in another country) I get this exception:


System.Net.WebException: The request failed with HTTP status 401: Unauthorized.



Dino


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From: Discussion of building .NET applications targeted for the Web on behalf of Shawn Wildermuth
Sent: Thu 12/20/2007 12:44 PM
To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
Subject: Re: [DOTNET-WEB] Unauthorised error



Any chance the issue isn't the Web Server security but that SQL Server 2005
isn't opened up to accept connections from non-local clients?

Thanks,

Shawn Wildermuth
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[mailto:DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM] On Behalf Of Dean Cleaver
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:33 PM
To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
Subject: [DOTNET-WEB] Unauthorised error

I'm connecting to a web service using network credentials, but have a very
strange error occurring. On my desktop and on the SQL Server machine, this
program will connect correctly - but on the web server, it will fail with a
401 error. I've double checked and re checked everything, and all
credentials are correct - but it still fails. Same exe file works fine from
other machines - any ideas on what to look at?

Dino

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[Dean Cleaver]

Interesting development - I can't even browse the remote web service from IE on the web server - the credentials are not accepted, but they are accepted when entered on my local machine.

Dino

________________________________

From: Discussion of building .NET applications targeted for the Web on behalf of Dean Cleaver
Sent: Thu 12/20/2007 1:01 PM
To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
Subject: Re: [DOTNET-WEB] Unauthorised error



The remote web service must be working, because I can connect fine from my desktop in design mode, but from the web server (our web server calling the remote web service - the web service is hosted in another country) I get this exception:


System.Net.WebException: The request failed with HTTP status 401: Unauthorized.



Dino


________________________________

From: Discussion of building .NET applications targeted for the Web on behalf of Shawn Wildermuth
Sent: Thu 12/20/2007 12:44 PM
To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
Subject: Re: [DOTNET-WEB] Unauthorised error



Any chance the issue isn't the Web Server security but that SQL Server 2005
isn't opened up to accept connections from non-local clients?

Thanks,

Shawn Wildermuth
http://adoguy.com <http://adoguy.com/> <http://adoguy.com/>
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[mailto:DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM] On Behalf Of Dean Cleaver
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:33 PM
To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
Subject: [DOTNET-WEB] Unauthorised error

I'm connecting to a web service using network credentials, but have a very
strange error occurring. On my desktop and on the SQL Server machine, this
program will connect correctly - but on the web server, it will fail with a
401 error. I've double checked and re checked everything, and all
credentials are correct - but it still fails. Same exe file works fine from
other machines - any ideas on what to look at?

Dino

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[Bob Franken]

I've run into issues with impersonation on the web, and you have to setup
trust for delegation on the sql server machine. I've included a link that
talks about this.

http://www.extendedtools.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=121


On 12/19/07, Dean Cleaver <***@xceptionsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting development - I can't even browse the remote web service from
> IE on the web server - the credentials are not accepted, but they are
> accepted when entered on my local machine.
>
> Dino
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Discussion of building .NET applications targeted for the Web on
> behalf of Dean Cleaver
> Sent: Thu 12/20/2007 1:01 PM
> To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> Subject: Re: [DOTNET-WEB] Unauthorised error
>
>
>
> The remote web service must be working, because I can connect fine from my
> desktop in design mode, but from the web server (our web server calling the
> remote web service - the web service is hosted in another country) I get
> this exception:
>
>
> System.Net.WebException: The request failed with HTTP status 401:
> Unauthorized.
>
>
>
> Dino
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Discussion of building .NET applications targeted for the Web on
> behalf of Shawn Wildermuth
> Sent: Thu 12/20/2007 12:44 PM
> To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> Subject: Re: [DOTNET-WEB] Unauthorised error
>
>
>
> Any chance the issue isn't the Web Server security but that SQL Server
> 2005
> isn't opened up to accept connections from non-local clients?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn Wildermuth
> http://adoguy.com <http://adoguy.com/> <http://adoguy.com/>
> http://wildermuthconsulting.com <http://wildermuthconsulting.com/> <
> http://wildermuthconsulting.com/>
> Microsoft MVP (C#), MCSD.NET, Author and Speaker
>
> The Silverlight Tour is coming to a city near you!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of building .NET applications targeted for the Web
> [mailto:DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM] On Behalf Of Dean Cleaver
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:33 PM
> To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> Subject: [DOTNET-WEB] Unauthorised error
>
> I'm connecting to a web service using network credentials, but have a very
> strange error occurring. On my desktop and on the SQL Server machine, this
> program will connect correctly - but on the web server, it will fail with
> a
> 401 error. I've double checked and re checked everything, and all
> credentials are correct - but it still fails. Same exe file works fine
> from
> other machines - any ideas on what to look at?
>
> Dino
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[Mark Aurit]

Does anyone have a good link to what vs.net 2008 has for developers, esp
asp.net developers? All Ive seen is the usual blah-blah-blah plus
LINQ and Silverlight. Neither of which seems compelling to me, at least
right now (kinda like Vista).

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[Ben Joyce]

It does proper, fully-integrated JS debugging, which makes it worth
installing in its own tbh.

On 12/19/07, Mark Aurit <***@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Does anyone have a good link to what vs.net 2008 has for developers, esp
> asp.net developers? All Ive seen is the usual blah-blah-blah plus
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[Shawn Wildermuth]

[Ben Joyce]

oh... did 2005 do integrated JS debugging? I didn't know :( Never worked
for me.

Shucks!

Can you give an example of OO in JS that doesn't work... I'd be interested
to see this.

Cheers,

Ben


On 12/21/07, Shawn Wildermuth <***@adoguy.com> wrote:
>
> "Fully-integrated JS Debugging" is a misnomer to me. It still doesn't do
> debugging well with object-oriented JS and much of what works now worked
> in
> 2005.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shawn Wildermuth
> http://adoguy.com
> http://wildermuthconsulting.com
> Microsoft MVP (C#), MCSD.NET, Author and Speaker
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> [mailto:DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM] On Behalf Of Ben Joyce
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:27 AM
> To: DOTNET-***@DISCUSS.DEVELOP.COM
> Subject: Re: [DOTNET-WEB] vs.net 2008 - wheres the beef?
>
> It does proper, fully-integrated JS debugging, which makes it worth
> installing in its own tbh.
>
> On 12/19/07, Mark Aurit <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have a good link to what vs.net 2008 has for developers, esp
> > asp.net developers? All Ive seen is the usual blah-blah-blah plus
> > LINQ and Silverlight. Neither of which seems compelling to me, at least
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[Shawn Wildermuth]

[Shawn Wildermuth]

[Mike Andrews]

I just recently bought this book:

Pro LINQ: Language Integrade Query in C# 2008 by Joseph C. Rattz, Jr.

I've been reading it and its an in-depth study of LINQ and its uses instead
of just cursory glances at the technology.
It's still taking me a bit of time wrapping my head around a lot of it, but
the more I look at it the more I like it.

On Dec 19, 2007 8:18 AM, Mark Aurit <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a good link to what vs.net 2008 has for developers, esp
> asp.net developers? All Ive seen is the usual blah-blah-blah plus
> LINQ and Silverlight. Neither of which seems compelling to me, at least
> right now (kinda like Vista).
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[Mark Aurit]

Has anyone brought vs.net 20005 solutions with web apps into 2008? Does
it have a new web project type, like 2005 did to us? That is a pain Im
not eager to experience again.

Mark Aurit wrote:
> Does anyone have a good link to what vs.net 2008 has for developers, esp
> asp.net developers? All Ive seen is the usual blah-blah-blah plus
> LINQ and Silverlight. Neither of which seems compelling to me, at least
> right now (kinda like Vista).
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[Ben Joyce]

I've used 2008 to develop several 2005 projects and haven't experienced any
problems at all. Give it a go; you can sqfely run 2008 alongside 2005
anyway.

On 12/19/07, Mark Aurit <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Has anyone brought vs.net 20005 solutions with web apps into 2008? Does
> it have a new web project type, like 2005 did to us? That is a pain Im
> not eager to experience again.
>
> Mark Aurit wrote:
> > Does anyone have a good link to what vs.net 2008 has for developers, esp
> > asp.net developers? All Ive seen is the usual blah-blah-blah plus
> > LINQ and Silverlight. Neither of which seems compelling to me, at least
> > right now (kinda like Vista).
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[Jack Evans]

[Scott Guthrie]

[Mike Andrews]

I'm quite ready to start using VS 2008. We've not started using it here
quite yet, but we are slated to start it soon.
The biggest programmatic features I see are:

Extension Methods
Lambda Express (new syntax for C#)
LINQ
Anonymous types
Object/collection initializers


On Dec 20, 2007 12:03 PM, Scott Guthrie <***@microsoft.com> wrote:

> I have a number of articles here that talk more about the VS 2008 and .NET
> 3.5 feature-set:
> http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/11/19/visual-studio-2008-and-net-3-5-released.aspx
>
> Some of the focused VS 2008 ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> improvements
> include:
>
> JavaScript Intellisense and Debugging
> CSS Styling Support
> Split View Designer
> Much faster design-time support
>
> There are obviously many other tool and runtime improvements (language
> additions, LINQ, new ASP.NET <http://asp.net/> controls, etc) as well.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Scott
>
>
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>
> Completely painless. I copy the project files from the 2005 projects
> folder
> to the 2008 folder, open and go.
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: vs.net 2008 - wheres the beef?
>
> Has anyone brought vs.net 20005 solutions with web apps into 2008? Does
> it have a new web project type, like 2005 did to us? That is a pain Im
> not eager to experience again.
>
> Mark Aurit wrote:
> > Does anyone have a good link to what vs.net 2008 has for developers, esp
> > asp.net developers? All Ive seen is the usual blah-blah-blah plus
> > LINQ and Silverlight. Neither of which seems compelling to me, at least
> > right now (kinda like Vista).
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[Adwait Ullal]

Mark,

Apart from what the other have already stated, IMO, it brings together the
tooling for technologies released so far ... like WCF, WF, etc. In VS2005,
you had to use command-line utilities or install the add-ons, some of them
were never past the CTP phase.

Another useful feature is the multi-framework project hosting (albeit, 2.0+
).

- Adwait

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